Back in February I wrote a post entitled “Theology got vaxxed?”
I’ve been told that someone wrote a counter piece to it. Nice to hear. I have yet to try to find and read it.
Yet, I did encounter and read a document from what is called “The Orthodox Theological Society in America” that addressed the topic of vaccination.
I was very troubled by this document. I considered writing some type of reply but it never quite felt that the time was right. I’m glad I delayed because someone much more qualified wrote a response.
The excellent response is penned by Fr. Alexander Webster, PhD. The reader may or may not have encountered the document from the above Society, yet if you have then I believe Fr. Webster’s response well worth reading. Please click here for the article.
Regardless, Fr. Webster’s article is of profit to read.
Although I found the Society’s document lacking in many ways, what deeply disturbed my heart is what certain aspects seem to imply. I will simply touch upon this in brief.
In my former post, “Theology got vaxxed?” I ask,“If the cells [of aborted babies] only originate from an evil act and have since be “reproduced” that makes it just fine? So medical practices are fine if the ends justify the means? If the “means” of death and evil must be used to develop the “ends” of “life-saving” medicine that is acceptable? … Is it acceptable to the Christian conscience to use medicine that was developed on aborted baby cells as long as the child was aborted years and years ago? Morally, is there a qualitative difference between an abortion 40 years ago as opposed to yesterday?”
I posed these questions even before I ever encountered the Society’s document. To my great regret they answered them, although I’m sure not directly or intentionally.
The document states, “The vaccines were tested in culture against fetal cells to help ensure that they would not harm a fetus as well as to ensure that the technology works in a human cell. These tests were done with cells derived from the 1960’s and 1970’s from therapeutic abortions. No new fetuses have been sacrificed since that time for any vaccine tests. Different from the mRNA vaccines, many of the other Covid-19 vaccines (e.g. AstraZeneca and Johnson and Johnson) are grown using the same fetal cell line. To “grow” the vaccine in fetal cells is a term that scientists use because all viruses are dependent on cells for “growth”, which for a virus means to replicate, and thus, the production of viral vaccines will require cells for production. Most vaccines do not “grow” well in adult cells, and therefore require the use of fetal cells.”
Note, that the Society correctly states that aborted baby cells were used in the research and development of the current vaccines. Those that have tried to say otherwise may now write me and concede that indeed aborted baby cells were utilized.
Also note that the definition of a “therapeutic abortion” is “the intentional termination of a pregnancy.” Or in stronger words, the intentional murder of a baby.
Thus, the Society tells us that the use of cells from intentional murder is okay in certain scenarios. How can we even use such double speak as “therapeutic abortion”? When is a murder ever therapeutic? I get sick just addressing this.
As to my questions, they seem to answer yes, as long as the abortion was back in the 1960’s and 1970’s, it is okay to utilize the cells. So, the conclusion is that R&D that utilizes aborted baby cells in the actual medicine is permissible as long as no “new” babies “were sacrificed.” So, it is okay to sacrifice babies, as long as enough time has passed from the time of the sacrifice. I find their wording very telling. They understand that abortion is a type of human sacrifice, which it is. And yet still they conditionally justify it in the current situation.
It seems they would answer, yes, morally there is a qualitative difference between an abortion performed 40 years ago as opposed to yesterday. I’d be curious how you, the reader, perceive what is stated. Please let me know in the comments.
It seems clear to me that it is okay to offer children to Molech, as long as one did it a while ago.
I wholeheartedly disagree in the utmost. I believe this section of the statement from this Society is a betrayal of Holy Orthodoxy. It is completely outside the Christian spirit.
The Society also appears to answer yes to my question of, “If the “means” of death and evil must be used to develop the “ends” of “life-saving” medicine that is acceptable?”
Since, as indicated in the document, baby cell are required for production (which includes research) of the current vaccines, the means of death and evil are acceptable as long as the end is a purported “life-saving” injection or some such thing.
Am I reading this wrong? I would really like to be.
How cold we have become, when to justify saving our own skins we will condone the use of the murder of the most innocent of our race. No manner of scholastic twister games are able to even slightly justify such atrocities.
How can we dare to think that the blood of babies sacrificed to the modern Molech will protect use from the chastisement of this virus? Indeed, rather, like Israel of old will we only further call down wrath upon our heads? What happened to the people of Israel of old when they turned to the blood of sacrificed babies for protection rather than the Lord of Hosts?
But the Society seems to tell us that it is acceptable to use medicine developed through the murder (abortion) of babies as long as the stated goal of such “medicine” is for the well-being of humanity.
The document states, “Several significant factors lead to the conclusion that the vaccines present the best ethical option to promote health and life, despite their connection with the use of aborted fetal cells. These factors are: (1) The fetal cells in use today are derived from two or three therapeutic abortions performed several decades ago. The abortions were NOT for the purpose of the development of vaccines, and all parties (including the US government) have agreed that no new fetuses will be aborted or used for this purpose. (2) Many vaccines (other than COVID) that we use in the US and world-wide are made from these cells, and other substitute cell lines have not proven to be effective for growing the vaccines; this has been the Updated 03/08/2021 only alternative. (3) Most Church leaders have agreed that the many lives saved by vaccination are an important factor in permitting the use of these vaccines. While it is a sad reality that the origin of these cell lines is from these very few therapeutic abortions, the cell lines are already in existence, no new fetuses will be used.”
I’m in pain from the ethical contortion game being played above. It should be noted that their statements are not entirely accurate. It is very possible that more recent abortions have been used in the R&D process. I pointed this out in my former article, but here is one source on this topic.
So, as long as the babies were not murdered with the intent to make the vaccine, it is fine. And as long as the world is doing it, it is fine. Murdered baby cells must be used because “other cell lines have not proven effective.” So, do we now condone abortion if the cells will be used for “good” medicine?
Honestly, I’m not interested in what the vague referenced “Most Church leaders” say. What do the Holy Fathers say? What do the Saints of our times say? What do the Scriptures say? What does Holy Tradition say? In none of these is the murder of babies ever condoned in the least. This portion of the Society’s document is a betrayal of all of the above.
“While it is sad that the origin of these cell lines is from these few intentional murders (which is the meaning of “therapeutic abortions) …” How could a conscientious Orthodox person ever pen such lines! My heart breaks, my stomach turns.
And they call themselves “theologians.” Nay, for they are not speaking words of God in the least.
In closing, I will leave you, the reader, to contemplate upon this latest revelation. The FDA itself has been exposed for purchasing the “Fresh” flesh of numerous murdered babied. The same FDA that is purported to be concerned for your safety. The actions of the FDA are in nowise different from that of the Nazis or any other barbaric secular-godless group. Indeed, it may be we have surpassed their brutalities. Such actions are to be condemned with no uncertain words. It is demonic evil. Anyone capable of such wickedness is no more trustworthy than the SS or NKVD. I will not entrust myself to the sons of Molech.
The above article made me literally nauseous (regarding purchase of murdered babies). Are we to believe that those buying baby parts like meat are going to be overly concerned about the continued use of baby cells in the development of injections? Those that are haters of life will are now concerned to save it?
We may also call to mind that Planned Parenthood (sic) was caught red-handed selling baby parts to mainly Big Pharma companies, of which are the companies currently producing our “life-saving” and “ethical” vaccine.
How can groups so encompassed in the breath of death even possibility breathe life?
Please tell me, how many babies do you think truly were sacrificed so that we can supposedly save our skins? How much blood of the innocent is it okay to bathe in to procure a promised remedy?
My primary concern is the seeming implicit justification of the use of abortion in circumstances on a “theological” level.
O, Father Zechariah, you are over reacting! No, I am not. The blood of millions of innocents has been sacrificed on the altar if modernity. In good conscience I am not able to pinch incense on it to keep myself safe. I find it disturbing that we have begun to theologically justify such actions. How is that even remotely Christian?
It seems the questions I posed in “Theology got vaxxed?” were very pertinent after all. So called “theology” just got its second dose.
Let us not forget, “What partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what consonance has Christ with Belial? What portion has a believer with an unbeliever? … Come out from the midst of them, and be separated, says the Lord” (2 Cor. 6:14-15, 17).